Frage maybe a demountable again.......

Hey!

(sorry if the auto translation a problem, I am from the UK)

not quite a newbie! but with a growing family I decided to go for a large euramobil back in 2007,after 5 years of demountables.... kids now finished Uni and dont travel with us anymore but still meet up with us it Italy etc ..(just back) So in 2011 bought an Adria panel van, that works well enough and is very comfortable. BUT! as we love Italy and parking becoming more difficult year on year thinking of a demountable again. we had a couple of the swedish easycampers at the time.

2 specific questions.

what is the best 1.5 cab these days, the VW or the Nissan?

which campers offer a side door as we need to have a bike rack on back for e bikes

wife not to happy re space so on a 1.5 cab with a slightly longer bed, the hope is a van with side door may offer more room? what's the situation with weights etc...and any new vans we should look at....

Welcome here in the forum. VW does not have a 1 1/2 cab.

Hello and

At the swedish Nordstar Campers there is a sviveling bike-rack available. No problems with the rear door.

You can also ask the Tischer Dealers for the new 260S mounted on the "Stretched" VW Amarok:
www.wohnkabinen-katalog.de/reisemobilkabinen/trailbox-260s.

Regards
Manfred

Hello, and welcome to the community:-)
I think E-bikes are to heavy to mount them on a bike rack at the end of the cabin. I think with two E-bikes you will reach a wheigt of 50kg an more and you have to add the wheigt of the rack.
No good plan, sorry:-( Otherwise i don't have any idea how to do it. ..

gesendet vom Dingens...

Hi and welcome to the Forum!

With ebikes mounted at ther rear of a maybe 260's cabin with sidedoor - no! This is too much weight at the rear.
You could use a solid bike carrier which is mounted on the trailer connection,but then you only could use a small cabin without overhang.
Alternative could be a VW-T5 singlecabine with a bike carrier which is mounted to the car frame. Then you could use a cabin like the Bimobils also with side door.

Thanks guys!

Hmmm..one of the main reasons we gave up on 6L was difficulty carrying bikes. we have decent German e bikes that weigh 19-21 kg each with batteries so without batteries approx 35kg...

There is no way my wife would go for a rear door 6L size camper again, as space to small. the Tischer 260 looks about right but a lot of money. we had an awning for rear of 6L but a side door and awning would work better I would think. want to keep truck bed for practicality...

So is the Navara the most popular vehicle?

and any other campers to consider these days?

The Navarra has 1750kg max on the rear axle. With big cabin you need some enhancement for more possible load,or you take the "Portugal" Version which has 2300kg I thing.
The Ford Ranger has 1850kg, but no upgrades possible.
Toyota Hilux needs upgrade from Nestle, possible but expensive.

What about the Bimobilconcept? Here you can have sidedoor with a shorter cabin. You have a platform on the car,but you can alternativa also mount the original truck bed with a little distance. But this is also a expensive solution.

Ah yes! the 3500kg portuguese navara was just becoming available when we changed back to a conventional camper. where can you buy this model these days? surprised Nissan have not made it more widely available...

JudgeMental schrieb: Ah yes! the 3500kg portuguese navara was just becoming available when we changed back to a conventional camper. where can you buy this model these days? surprised Nissan have not made it more widely available...

Sorry, but can not buy it new any more, only as used car.

This looks pretty near what I would like..unfortunately not a production model

tinyurl.com/qj7w956

Hello and celcome to the forum!

Holger4x4 schrieb: The Navarra has 1750kg max on the rear axle.

That's not quite right.
The new model is 1960kg on the rear axle.

Best regards

Hansi

I am not a Nissan dealer, but I am truck-camper professional.

We use the Nissan Navara in our company since a couple years and we happy with that model. The D40 offers a powerfull engine with 190HP and a bery reasonable fuel consumption. If you want to have an even better engine, buy yourself the Navara D40 with 3L V6 Diesel with 232HP. This one is driving as smooth as very high priced SUV.

The todays D40 have 1.960kg l.c. on the rear axle. We could get it upgraded for 2.100kg or even on 2.300kg l.c. on the rear axle and the gross weight will be ugraded for 3.500kg.

Forget about any demountabl-camper with side entry and a rear bike rack for that type of bikes you are using. You will loose your rear wall one day, or you will crack your trucks frame. The side entry is taking out most of the rear walls stability, because the door generates a big gap in the connection of rear & sidewall.

The side entry campers are sticking out very much. If you attach in such position a bike carrier on the rear wall, and you drive through a deeper pothole or on rough road, the force which works on your trucks frame is tremendous. You´d be not the first with a broken frame, though.

Would you let a seven years old child carry two 25kg bags of sand at a time? Seriously not! But your truck must carry all, even that this is the same relation?

If you want all, then:

A: Buy yourself a big American truck and a matching camper.

B: Buy yourself a nice motorhome.

C: Safe some money for some costly repairs later on.

We have limited weight, limited length and because of this limited possiblities. Buy a smaller demountable-camper and all will fit better.

Have you ever thought that a side entry will cost you a full cabinet from floor to roof? This is such loss of storage, I would never agree for in my own camper.

If you take away your load box and install the camper directly on your frame, this would change the whole situation. In this case you have not a too long rear end and your trucks-frame will have much easier live. Also the door on the side is not weakening the frame so much, because it is positiones in the middle of the wall, not on it´s end. This idea is much better.

Kindly regards,

Jens

Jens Heidrich schrieb:

If you take away your load box and install the camper directly on your frame, this would change the whole situation. In this case you have not a too long rear end and your trucks-frame will have much easier live. Also the door on the side is not weakening the frame so much, because it is positiones in the middle of the wall, not on it´s end. This idea is much better.

Kindly regards,

Jens

Hallo Jens,
Dein Laden muss ja gut laufen, wenn Du schon dem immer unfreundlichen Herrn von Liebe die Kundschaft zutreibst

Spass beiseite, Respekt
Solch ein Händlerverhalten finde ich höchst anständig und überaus korrekt!

Gruss
Hansi

JudgeMental schrieb: This looks pretty near what I would like..unfortunately not a production model

tinyurl.com/qj7w956

This is a nice built cabine, I read something about it in the womox forum. But I think its still a bit expensive.

@hanshermann: Sorry, I didn't know that Nissan has changed the specs.

life hab ich die leider nie gesehen! Aber einen Selbstbau für so viel Geld zu verkaufen ist immer schwierig.

Sorry,

...at the price of this cabin you can buy a new one at

www.batari.de.

Built on your own specs.

Regards

Manfred

Jens Heidrich schrieb: The todays D40 have 1.960kg l.c. on the rear axle. We could get it upgraded for 2.100kg or even on 2.300kg l.c. on the rear axle and the gross weight will be ugraded for 3.500kg.

Jens

Hmm, I just downloaded the Nissan Brochure from July 2013, and it still says 1750kg for the rear Axle
Look here

I bought and registered a new Nissan Navara King Cab in May 2013. He has the type designation D401 and a maximum permissible rear axle load of 1.960 kg.