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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #1 von DCHCPU
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Hi!
I sold my Easy Camper to a chap with a Nissan Navara double cab pick up. On his first trip, the truck bed seems to have collapsed in the rear.. Strange since the pick up bed load is rated to mutch more weight then the camper. He was lucky to get home alive, and he is a dissepointed owner of a camper that he can't use.. Is this a common fault? How to strengthen the bed?
I've seen lots of Nissans with the same camper but never heard of the truck bed damage before.
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #2 von holger4x4
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Oops, well,it looks like the camper is made for a clubcab and not for a doublecab! So the rear overhang is too much, even if the total weight still fits. So not the bed colapses,but the frame of the pickup! Now the Navara is only scrap :shock:
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #3 von QuestMan
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Sorry, but this is really the wrong Camper for a DC :!:

So it's no wonder that the truck bed or even worse, the frame is broken.
In this case not only the weight of the load is important.

With such a combination and a little to fast on a bad road,
you can bend every frame of a smale size pickup.
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #4 von DCHCPU
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I repeat: I've seen several nissans with the same camper, no damage. Is there any stiffener available to strenghten the rear bed bracked that connects the bed to the chassis! The owner phoned now and told me the rear bed/chassis brackets had collapsed, and the bolts had penetrated the pick up bed.
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #5 von QuestMan
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Such a big camper shouldn`t only be connected to the original bed brackets, :schande:
and even if you have seen nissans with the same camper, this combination has a far to big overhang.
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her - 12 Jahre 9 Monate her #6 von DCHCPU
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Please focus on how to fix the problem. I am fully aware that this is not a good combination, and it is not my problem since I did not know whitch car the camper should be mounted on. The issue here is how to help the poor chap so he can get his car back on the road. I am not familiar with how the Nissan trucks are built. Tips on some kind of strengtheing bar between the bed's rear mounting brackets and the chassis would be welcome.
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #7 von mingelopa
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To me such an overhang seems absolutely grazy. Looks to me, as if the cabin fits a single cab pick-up. Don't you make sure on a scale before you go on the road with such a combination. You only need to look at the rear axle springs. There was probably no gap left to the frame.
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #8 von DCHCPU
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Please read before you answer... :neutral:
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her - 12 Jahre 9 Monate her #9 von DCHCPU
DCHCPU antwortete auf Aw: Truck bed collaps...
Well, after spending some time googling on the internet, one can wonder how people dear to fit something on the Nissan Navara pick up bed at all.... :!:
www.motorsm.com/COMPLAINTS/update/display.asp?aid=1454
www.4wdaction.com.au/forum/viewtopic.php?f=81&t=119057
www.navara.asia/showthread.php?t=10554
beta.4x4community.net/forum/showthread.p...-Navara-bent-Chassis

And here is a picture of an equal car with 6L. taken by the camper factory in Sweden. 25cm shorter overhang and the same weight..... But perhaps they don't know what they're dealing with...
www.nordstar.de/index.php?option=com_con...icle&id=69&Itemid=77
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #10 von PB Camper
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Sorry, but the 6L is construct for DC.

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12 Jahre 9 Monate her - 12 Jahre 9 Monate her #11 von DCHCPU
DCHCPU antwortete auf Aw: AW: Truck bed collaps...
Ok. So weight is no issue? I am not an engineer, but it seems like something is missing here.
If the car hits a heavy bump in the road, would it be any difference if the camper is 25 cm. longer and has the same weight? The fraze "tread lightly" is perhaps getting new meaning...
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #12 von Lance a lot
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Weight *distribution* can become more important than the actual weight. The gross vehicle weight of the truck may not even have been exceeded.

You can clearly see that almost all of the camper is behind the rear axle. This means that probably not only does the rear axle get to carry all the weight of the camper - possibly even the center of gravity is shifted so far back that load is taken from the front and redistributed to the back.

I am not an engineer either, but followig truck camper forums has taught me a thing or two about rear axle loads. It is really the most important lesson to be obeyed when mounting a camper on a truck. Or else... you just saw what happens. It is a familiar sight on these forums, usually after a bump in the road, with a camper with a long overhang, on a crew cab truck.

In your pictures, I would assume the bed itself is in good shape, but the frame is bent.

Good luck,
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her - 12 Jahre 9 Monate her #13 von DCHCPU
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Thank you Joerg!
That was a clearyfiyng answer. One step further. The truck has now been picked up by resque and are on its way to Nissan workshop for further examination. I'll post more details as the mecanics get started examination.
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #14 von Huegelcamper
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This is a Kabiene for a U.S. Truck! :gelbekarte: and not for a Japanese DC Pick Up
VW T3 50Ps Diesel mit Reimo Airoline Hochdach / Fiat Ducato CI Alkoven / Mazda B2500 mit Holländischer Kabine / Dodge Ram 2500 HD 5,9 Cummins HD 12V Extended Cab Long Bed 4x4 mit Lance Truck Camper 880 / Rimor Katamarano 12 / Rimor Europeo 69

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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #15 von finix
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Jeder Rahmen, der bei dieser Fehlbelastung NICHT bricht hat doch einen "collaps"...nein "Knall"! :screwy:
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #16 von Idealist
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Ich glaube, bei der Combo kann man sich nicht damit rausreden: "Das habe ich nicht gewußt..."

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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #17 von Lasyx
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Sachen gibts... :mrgreen:


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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #18 von mingelopa
mingelopa antwortete auf Aw: Truck bed collaps...

Lance a lot schrieb: Weight *distribution* can become more important than the actual weight. The gross vehicle weight of the truck may not even have been exceeded.

You can clearly see that almost all of the camper is behind the rear axle. This means that probably not only does the rear axle get to carry all the weight of the camper - possibly even the center of gravity is shifted so far back that load is taken from the front and redistributed to the back.

Joerg


And the weight on the rear axle gets even worse when going steeply uphill.
As a matter of personal interest: Is such a problem known from the Defender 130 CC?
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #19 von holger4x4
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At least I have never seen such a photo of a LR130 !
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12 Jahre 9 Monate her #20 von QuestMan
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Holger4x4 schrieb: At least I have never seen such a photo of a LR130 !


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